Chapter 3197 Detective is dying (48)
Chapter 3197 Detective is dying (48)
Chapter 3197: Detective is about to die (Forty-eight)
"The Joker? Isn't his goal very clear?"
Batman shook his head and said, "What he wants is only what he thinks he wants. He deceives himself in the process of chasing it."
"You're confusing me a little bit," Schiller said. "He thinks what he wants is what he wants, right?"
"Do you like apples?"
"To be honest, I don't like it very much."
Batman didn't seem to expect his answer to be so straightforward, but he still said, "You think you like apples, but that's different from you really liking apples. Before you eat the apples, you sincerely think you like them. Does that mean you really like them?"
"That's what the Joker is like. Before he actually makes me collapse, he really thinks his motivation for living is to make me collapse, but in fact, he's not."
"How do you know he isn't?"
Batman gave him another strange look, then said, "Should a psychiatrist believe that it is healthy for a person to live entirely for another person?"
“I’m not a psychiatrist.”
Batman showed a look of understanding, and Schiller realized that Batman was trying to trick him again!
How did the topic get to this point?
But fortunately, Batman did not stop talking. He continued, "Darkseid's desire to conquer the universe seems evil because we are on the conquered side, and our survival instinct requires us to fight back. But it is normal for him to have such an ideal when he is in that position. It is so healthy."
Schiller opened his mouth. He felt that what Batman said actually made sense, but wasn't he being a little too considerate?
"What I want to say is that it is normal for conflicts of interest to arise. Greed wants to make money, and I want to save people. If we can't have both, we will inevitably become rivals."
"But for the Joker, there is no conflict of interest between us. It is abnormal for him to be my opponent. No one can understand it from his perspective, but he just has to do it."
"So you think he doesn't really want to go against you?"
"He is sincere. No one is more sincere than him."
Schiller was a little confused by him. Didn't Batman just say that what the Joker really wanted was not to go against him, but now he said that the Joker was sincere.
"What I mean is that his sincerity is pathological, just like when you crave to eat apples, it's not because you really love apples, but because you have never eaten apples. This is an obsession, not a hobby."
Schiller suddenly realized.
He understood what Batman meant. Batman judged that Schiller was not dangerous because what Schiller wanted was his hobby. Even if it was manipulating others, he had experienced it and found it really interesting, so he wanted it.
He judged the Joker dangerous because what the Joker wanted was just an obsession. He had never truly defeated Batman, so he just wanted to defeat Batman, but in fact he had never experienced what it felt like to truly defeat Batman. He wanted it because he had never gotten it.
The Joker feels empty, so he picks a target, but he can never get it, so he wants it more, and then he thinks he really wants it, but he may not.
This was also the first time Schiller knew that Batman thought this way about the Joker. It was completely different from the arguments Schiller had come across in the past that judged the relationship between Batman and the Joker from a God's perspective, and it was very subjective.
"Why don't you think he just happens to be interested in you?"
"He just has no other choice," Batman said. "Of all the things that could possibly arouse his evil interest, the only thing he could see, touch, or even possibly touch, is me."
Schiller suddenly heard a hint of sadness in these words. It is always said that the Joker is playing games with Batman, but isn't Batman also playing games with the Joker?
Among all the things that make the Joker crazy, Batman is indeed the one that is most easily accessible to him. What is really sad is that this is only because Batman lowered his status and went to the streets to fight crime, otherwise there would not be even this one.
"So you still have a savior complex." Schiller said hesitantly, "You think the clown should let go of his obsession and find something he really loves instead of clinging to you."
"I hope so, but it's unlikely." Batman said, "Now that things have come to this, he will not give up until he achieves his goal. As long as he hasn't really defeated me, he will continue to pester me endlessly, but I won't let him defeat me."
"Very good, a perfect knot." Schiller said, "Why are you talking about this again suddenly?"
"I'm talking about the difference between you and someone who is truly dangerous," Batman said. "More specifically, the difference between you and someone I need to treat as a dangerous criminal."
"So you don't think I'm a dangerous criminal?" Schiller was a little flattered. He said, "Are you sure this isn't because your vigilance has dropped?"
Batman shook his head and said, "I can clearly tell the difference between you, although I don't know what causes the difference yet."
"What's the difference?"
"You have a choice," Batman said. "You choose a path when you feel satisfied and feel good, not when you are empty and cling to a lifeline."
"If I were to use an analogy, you are a well-fed lion, not a hungry hyena, which makes you less dangerous."
Schiller stared at him for a while without saying anything and said, "Don't you think Greed is always hungry? He wants everything and is always motivated to hunt. Isn't this dangerous?"
"I can see that he has never experienced true emptiness and hunger," Batman said.
"How do you know that?" Schiller asked curiously.
"I have no intention of discriminating, but people who have truly experienced hunger have a fear of lack in their bones, and they are more eager to keep the food in their hands."
"what do you mean……"
"People like this rarely try to gain big by doing small things, because they are reluctant to sacrifice even small things. Many criminals in Arkham are like this. They choose to commit crimes because it costs almost nothing to them. Destruction is always easier than construction. I have to invest a lot of money and energy to fight crime, but they are just trying to get something for nothing."
"They know that engaging in low-level crime won't actually cause enough harm. If they want to completely destroy the city, entering the upper levels is a better way. I believe greed will do that."
"I understand a little bit." Schiller nodded and said, "There are prerequisites for getting into the upper class. Apart from external things, you must also study yourself and spend a lot of time to truly integrate into the upper class and make it look real."
"That's right, but not everyone has the confidence to study full-time. Confidence requires resources to support it. That's why I said that greed has never experienced true lack. He wants everything, which proves that he has the courage to try everything. What kind of people do you think often have such courage?"
"Of course there are more rich people." Schiller sighed, because in addition to greed, he also thought of Bruce.
"Bruce is now known as Gotham's Idea King. His unconventional ideas and the courage to put them into practice are definitely not something that could be fostered in an environment where the city is in danger every day and the world is about to be destroyed at any time."
"The more we lack, the more vulnerable we are, and the less room for error we have. Our survival instinct will make us be cautious and prudent. This is the law of nature and it is really hard to avoid."
"What about arrogance?" Schiller couldn't help asking.
"The Doctor is another realm." Batman leaned back in his chair and said, "What kind of person do you think would study theology?"
"I'm just bored... okay."
"These views are very novel," Schiller commented very pertinently. "I never knew you looked at criminals in this way, as if..."
"Like what?"
"It's as if you don't have any difficulty dealing with them. Of course, I'm not saying that it's difficult for you to deal with them, but you don't seem to regard them as your opponents psychologically."
"To some extent, yes. I would consider someone who would do the same thing as me as an opponent if we were in the same position. We just have different positions and conflicts of interest. One day, when the conflicts are gone, we can be friends."
"What about the others? The ones you can't understand even if you put yourself in their shoes, let alone act like them?"
"Like you said, savior complex."
"You actually admitted it?!" Schiller said in surprise, "I thought you would find this view arrogant, thinking of yourself as a shepherd or something."
"I would think that anyone who completely interchanges with me but cannot become me needs to be saved by me."
"Jesus should come down from the cross and you should go up," Schiller exclaimed sincerely.
"That includes Jesus," Batman said.
Schiller sighed, "I can only say, no wonder you and Pride are friends."
Then he asked in confusion: "Why are we discussing this again? What does this mean?"
"I'm just saying why I helped Greed." Batman's tone was still calm. He said, "If you rank the danger level of everyone in this game, Greed should be at the bottom, because he is not hungry at all. Eating is just his hobby."
"what about me?"
"All the Schillers are not very forward." Batman said: "I told you that you are not hungry, you are just interested."
"And then who?"
"As much as I hate to admit it, Bruce doesn't rank high either." Batman's tone deepened slightly as he said, "The difference between him and you is that he's better at smashing bowls after dinner."
"I'll take that as a compliment, so the number one is the clown?"
"Of course."
"Who is taller, the evil Batman or the good Joker?"
"…They are equally matched, but if I have to rank them, I would say Evil Batman." Batman thought and said, "His sense of lack is more serious than that of the Joker."
"Because he pays too much attention to Bruce? I feel like you're biased."
Batman shook his head and said, "I don't want to brag that I'm completely objective, but Night Owl lost more than the Pale Knight did, and he gained much less through his loss."
"Yes, if you knew how happy the Pale Knight was in his universe, you might be envious."
"It's not easy to make up for the Joker's lack. Sometimes I wonder if only God can do it. What the Joker lacks is not some material things, it's not the poor growing environment that shaped this madman, and what he lacks is not even love."
Schiller also fell into thinking along this line of thought, and at this moment, he suddenly heard Batman ask.
"What puzzles me even more is you, Schiller. Judging from your existence, you shouldn't be so full... Who is feeding you?"
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